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Associates in Advocacy now has two sites on the internet. Our primary help site is at http://www.aiateam.org/. There AIA seeks to offer aid to troubled pastors, mainly those who face complaints and whose careers are on the line.

Help is also available to their advocates, their caregivers, Cabinets, and others trying to work in that context.

This site will be a blog. On it we will address issues and events that come up.

We have a point of view about ministry, personnel work, and authority. We intend to take the following very seriously:

THE GOLDEN RULE
THE GENERAL RULES
GOING ONTO PERFECTION

Some of our denomination's personnel practices have real merit. Some are deeply flawed. To tell the difference, we go to these criteria to help us know the difference.

We also have a vision of what constitutes healthy leadership and authority. We believe it is in line with Scripture, up-to-date managerial practice, and law.

To our great sadness, some pastors who become part of the hierarchy of the church, particularly the Cabinet, have a vision based on their being in control as "kings of the hill," not accountable to anyone and not responsible to follow the Discipline or our faith and practice. They do not see that THE GOLDEN RULE applies to what they do.

If you are reading this, the chances are you are not that way. We hope what we say and do exemplify our own best vision and will help you fulfill yours. But we cannot just leave arrogance, incompetence, and ignorance to flourish. All of us have the responsibility to minimize those in our system.

We join you in fulfilling our individual vow of expecting to be perfect in love in this life and applying that vow to our corporate life in the United Methodist Church.

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If you have any questions or suggestions, direct them to Rev. Jerry Eckert. His e-mail address is aj_eckert@hotmail.com. His phone number is 941 743 0518. His address is 20487 Albury Drive, Port Charlotte, FL 33952.

Thank you.

(9/26/07)


Tuesday, July 20, 2021

JCD 1413

ee.umc.org/decisions/81536

 

Did They or Didn’t They?

 

During a special called meeting of the Greater New Jersey Annual Conference to discuss Discipline changes of the 2019 General Conference, a report was made which included a set of ten recommendations for giving direction to the conference regarding LGBTQIA+ matters.  The recommendations were mostly pastoral, showing care and respect, especially toward teenagers.  Someone asked the bishop if the conference was trying to tell the local churches what to do.  He said in essence, “Not really.”

 

And the Council accepted his decision that the recommendations were moot and hypothetical.  In other words, the vote to accept the ten recommendations was without meaning or effect in church law.

 

Based on comments in concur/dissent section of JCD 1413, that the matter was parliamentary rather than “legal” may have stemmed from the bishop’s decision that the recommendations, while voted on, were not then finally settled because the full report was not ever voted upon.  

 

This is a quirk in annual conference processes where elements of an agency’s or committee’s report to the conference may be voted on but unless the whole report is voted upon, the matter actually fails to become binding for the annual conference.  

 

So the bishop’s response was that the conference had not actually told anyone what to do even though the content of the report was extensively discussed and parts voted upon.  The real effect was that the recommendations were given the support of the respective votes.  Anyone at the session would come away with the impression that the conference e was supporting the LGBTQIA+ community, especially the kids.

 

But technically, the Council went along with the bishop that nothing binding happened.

 

Did they or didn’t they?  Not really, I guess.  But existentially, they did.  And without the word “aspirational” being used.

 

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